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« on: September 02, 2009, 02:59:55 PM »

If you have questions..however contxxxxxsial and wish to make others aware of it and hope to have an answer from us...post it up here...

Will not have all the answers but will certainly try my best to get it for you... Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 01:21:46 AM »





1. How do we know that the new "Federation" will not do the same thing what the happen to the other "so called" Assoc.?
2. Will the committee members be only the  selected "Cronies" and the rest will only be zombies?
3. Will this "Federation"  be another "Toll" collector?
4. For the sake of "discussion" - I am a Player and Businessman. Hmmm.......How can I profit from this??

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 01:25:47 AM »

wow, that bit of history about jentayu thingy went 'poofed'.  Grin Grin
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 02:07:23 AM »

1) The new federation will be headed by leaders and pioneers of the sport and industry here in Malaysia.It will consist of the promoters,vendors,fields owners and regional leaders(association and clubs).These people have invested in the sport when it was not there and have made it doing it the right way.They have been doing it basically without govt funding and are deemed the most likely people who would want to do it the right way.Just getting the Govt's money has never been the priority of these individuals....

2)The list of committees and it's reps will be made public to all for scrutinise and you will find that the answer to question 1 basically gives you an idea as to who will be in the main committee.As to the zombies...I do believe that a number of chosen ones could well turn out to be zombies by their own choice as it is not easy to put words into action.We will not select anyone whom we believe will be zombies in the organisation but they may well turn out to be.

Cronies...if it is the correct term...every organisation will need people who can work together to futher it's goals and objectives.If that is what is meant...the new federation will be full of cronies who loves paintball.If it means the placing of individuals who will help cover up the leader's track as he mismanages the organisation ..no...there will be none.This will be a full fledge working federation with complete transparency and accountability...as it should be.

3)One of the key policies of the new federation would be to assist in the the growth of the sports.It is not here to hinder the growth by setting Sanctioning Fees for fields,promoters etc etc.Anything that will have a negative impact on the existing would be a big no no.The federation will in no way dabble in any form of business pertaining to paintball...it will be left to the commercial sector.
It will serve as our sport's highway to the ears of the govt and relevant sporting bodies.

4)All involved in the sport of paintball will gain.....can you picture a situation where..

1)Your request for grants for an excellent program is actually heard and considered....great ideas and innovation rewarded.
2)Taxes are removed or reduced for paintball goods coming into the country...cheaper to play the sport.
3)Your sport is accepted as a mainstream sport with proper recognition..enabling corporate sponsorships.
4)Your club is like football club where you will get annual grants to carry out programs

Look at the above and think about it in detail....I hope it answers your question.Everyone that I can think of will gain from it.

Do keep these questions coming as they sure help to stimulate thoughts..... Grin

CAN IT ALL BE DONE...I DO BELIEVE SO...AND THAT IS WHY WE SHOULD ALL PUT OUR TIME ON THIS MATTER!!




 
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 02:20:29 AM »

sounds like plan  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 03:04:14 AM »

Thanz for the support..even blogs and forums(our equivalent of paintball media) can help make it happen and act a control and balance mechanism for the new organisation.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 07:54:15 AM »

The basic difference being the Federation is more of representation Or a Voice for it's members . A voice to represent us when decisions are made that affects the industry in general.
Simply put...industry members/select comitee that will make decisions based on rational logic. Decisions which will not hamper growth and the dynamics of the sport.

MPA on the other hand offers a more governing stance. Which is no different except that maybe now we may have one more application forms to fill/ process/ approval.
They will probably do their part in promoting paintball and may also try to organise some local tourneys with Muhibbah themes like 1 Malaysia Paintball Quest...at some college / governtment fields. It's all great and fine if it's not been done already by more reputable/proven organizers. 

As for zombies / cronies , they will always be around ( u never really can rid of them can you?) but at the very least they can the zombies/ cronies for the masses Grin

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 02:32:21 PM »

So with all that said how will these posts be chosen ??
is it by election ??
Yes there alot of "fathers" of this sport in this country ... SO ? they have made their contributions in the past ... but do they have to be the ones leading the way into the future ??
why cant the newer generation of players lead the way into the future ? im not saying that the old guard have to step back and have no say ... but why do they have to be the leaders ??
every player whether old or new should be part of the committee/ cabinet ...
and everything position should go down to a vote or nomination ....

paintball business owners should not hold too much power as it will influence the industry too much with policies favouring their particular business !!!
the organisation should be lead by dedicated individuals who's only obligation is the the Association or watever the name will be in the future.
As this will be a national association then the positions should be payed jobs - where they can fully dedicate their time to promoting and developing the sport we love !!
we can have people who are not dedicated and due to other "work" obligations are unable to complete their duties !!
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 04:09:52 PM »

Hi Moogler...I will try my best to answer your questions..

So with all that said how will these posts be chosen ??As it is a protem committee,it will be by selection and has to be approved by the Sports Commisioner's office.

is it by election ?? The Pro tem is given a duration of up to 12 months to get thing right not only in the national but also state associations.

Yes there alot of "fathers" of this sport in this country ... SO ? they have made their contributions in the past ... but do they have to be the ones leading the way into the future ??

I am not aware that there are a lot of fathers actually.Only those who did the work and those who claim to have done so and no...they do not have to lead the federation.They will be there by merit.By merit..I mean the ones whom the Ministry of Youth and Sports and our established international paintball communities are prepared to recognize.The international recognition criteria is set by our Ministry too.I would assume that they will be doing their homework too and ensure that a credible committee is in place after the previous association's problems.
 
why cant the newer generation of players lead the way into the future ? im not saying that the old guard have to step back and have no say ... but why do they have to be the leaders ??
every player whether old or new should be part of the committee/ cabinet ...
and everything position should go down to a vote or nomination ....

New blood will always be welcomed..but it would be good to have those who have gone through the trials and tribulations of years gone by.Perhaps it will be good to see if the fresh guys have the same heart or not first before such a responsibility is placed on their shoulders.Having said that...you will see quite a lot of new blood who are leaders in their regions. 

paintball business owners should not hold too much power as it will influence the industry too much with policies favouring their particular business !!!

Agreed but they are also the ones who complete the circle and have contributed significantly to get the sport to where it is today.They are also the ones with the most to lose if the sport is killed or stagnant.They should be involved.Even the Minister have gone on record in the STAR newspapers that he hopes to see more if not all sports driven by the commercial sector.

the organisation should be lead by dedicated individuals who's only obligation is the the Association or watever the name will be in the future.
Why would you be so obligated to the federation if you have nothing to lose..I wonder.Let us be frank here.I have heard this song sung many times before.

As this will be a national association then the positions should be payed jobs - where they can fully dedicate their time to promoting and developing the sport we love !!
The only paying position is that of the hired secretary and accountant of the federation.

we can have people who are not dedicated and due to other "work" obligations are unable to complete their duties !!

From experience....only people who love the sport and preferably with something to lose will be totally dedicated to their duties.I have never seen it in any salaried staff before.I am just speaking frankly here...it is this kind of expectations that is expected of the committee.


Your questions are most valid and I hope that you have gained some insights.

We would love to have a committee of people with "something to lose" and not those who wants to be there "to gain more" though it may happen as a result of the positions held.If the gain by the sport is so much greater as a result of them being there..should we begrudge them for the gains ,if any,that they got as a result of the hours they put in for the federation....just a thought we might want to consider..
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